Talk:Joe Van Staden - Birth of the Sea Org, Pt. 2

Joe van Staden, you write about Bill Robertson (Capt. Bill) Now I know much later after Jill and I had gone back to South Africa Bill Robertson came along setting himself up as the “founder” of Scientology in Europe. Gerrrrrrrrrr.

I worked directly under Capt. Bill at EULO as A/CS 3 1970-73. Those were wonderfull and fantastic years. However I never heard Capt. Bill call himself anything like founder. He had great respect for LRH, and FOUNDER was the title of the old man.

I would say, that Capt. built Europa. From a few small orgs to many large orgs. Those years were golden years with unheard of expansion in the europe. We sent Jens Bogvad to Munich, Germany and in 18 months the org grew from 2 staff to more than 80. Similar could be told about Paris, Amsterdam, Copenhagen and others. And you know, ethics was not an issue. We did not handle by doing ethics investigation and hearings, declaring and expelling. No, we handled by promoting, getting people in, training and auditing them. And that created new inflow ... When I was promoted out of that job to go to GO WW, my ethics folder was empty except for a commendation.

When I came back to Copenhagen in 1974 captain Bill had been busted for being upstat. I met two of our star staff members from the golden days. They were in the RPF chipping rust on the deck of the SO Stationship.

Abbreviation for 1. Case Supervisor. 2. Commodore's Staff. (Modern Management Technology Defined (C) 1976).

L. Ron Hubbard

1. The rules or standards governing the conduct of the members of a profession. (HCO PL 3 May 72). 2. A system of removing the counter-effort to the forward push. (6711C18SO)

The application of Scientology processes and procedures to someone by a trained auditor. (Dianetics & Scientology Technical Dictionary (C) 1975)

Abbreviation for 1. Guardian's Office. (Modern Management Technology Defined (C) 1976). The Guardian's Office handles certain publics which are its sole responsibility. These publics are as follows: press relations, government relations, special Guardian group relations, opposition group relations, troublesome relations. (BPL 20 May 70 I)

Abbreviation for World Wide. (Modern Management Technology Defined (C) 1976). The corporation the owns and controls Scientology Orgs. (HCO PL 9 Mar 72I)

One who has high statistics. (HCOB 8 Aug 71) Also short for upstatistic; The current number is more than it was. (HCO PL 16 Dec 65)

Abbreviation for 1. Rehabilitation Project Force. (Modern Management Technology Defined (C) 1976). The Rehabilitation Project Force has been created by the Commodore so that redemption can occur. (FO 3434)

Abbreviation for Sea Organization. (Modern Management Technology Defined (C) 1976).